Lazy Joe Rogan didn’t bother to read his guest’s book, which means he had nothing but softball questions. Snowden has interesting things to say but in a good interview, the interviewee is challenged. Snowden wasn’t challenged here.
On his new book, Permanent Record: “They don’t want to see books like this get written. They don’t want to see books like htis get read.”
Mainstream media: “They want to you to give answers in 15 seconds or less.”
To Joe Rogan: “Your logo is the worst thing in the world for people who trying to be serious.”
The secret implementation of post 9/11 mass surveillance: “We, the American people, had sort of lost our seat at the table of the government. We were no longer the partner to government. We had become the subject to government.”
“The system of checks and balances failed.”
To those who says his revelations harmed U.S. security: “We’re in 2019. I came forward in June 2013. We’ve had six years to show bodies. We’ve had six years to show harm. You know, as well as I do, that the government is happy to leak things when it’s in their interests. Nobody has been hurt because of these disclosures.”
“Skepticism is a skill.”
“Massive connection between government and industry in the classified space that just goes deeper and deeper.”
On working for Dell at the CIA: “I’m sitting across from the Chief of Technology Officer for the entire agency. I’m sitting across from the Chief Information Officer for the entire CIA and these guys are saying, ‘Look here’s a problem.’ It’s my job to pitch them a system–I’m paired up with this sales guy–and the whole thing is, ‘How much money can we get out of the government.”
